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title: Modafinil is an Anti-Empathy Drug [Neal Thakkar Interview] - Limitless Mindset
description: I interview fitness guru, Nootropics impresario and large human, Neal Thakkar of Evolvere.
author: Jonathan Roseland
url: https://www.limitlessmindset.com/podcast/567-neal-thakkar
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# Modafinil is an Anti-Empathy Drug [Neal Thakkar Interview]

Ⓒ By **Jonathan Roseland**

Applied Neuroscience Strategist, K-Selected Biohacker, Tantric husband, Promethean peaceful parent, Adventuring philosopher, Raconteur, and Author. He spent +14 years researching the intersection of human performance enhancement and advanced personal growth in his obsessive quest - spanning three continents - to find real-life "NZT-48."

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## I interview fitness guru, *Nootropics impresario,* and large human, Neal Thakkar of Evolvere.

We discuss the downsides to bodybuilding, fitness hacks, Modafinil vs Mindfulness, and the potent Nootropic stack he's created - [QUANTUMiND](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/nootropics/1590-quantumind-nootropic). Whether or not you should bring your smartphone to the gym. Why [Modafinil is a problematic *anti-empathy drug*](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/blog/495-modafinil-is-problematic). We discuss the workout supplements HMB, Yohimbine, CBD, and Creatine. Neal warns about common mistakes to avoid making in the gym, like why...

> *“You shouldn't do cardio in the gym BEFORE lifting weights.”*

Listen to this on the go [here](https://castbox.fm/x/1kjCJ) with the Castbox.FM app

 

## **Discussed...**

1:21 About Neal
3:35 Why quit bodybuilding
6:22 Nootropics and Bodybuilding
7:30 Key Performance Indicators in the gym?
13:54 Appropriate frequency and intensity of workouts for newbies
16:02 Should you use your smartphone in the gym?
20:26 Mistakes to avoid when you’re new to the gym
22:26 Pre and post-workout meals
Workout Supplements
28:10 [Yohimbine](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/Yohimbine)
29:47 [HMB](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/HMB)
32:03 [Creatine](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/Creatine)
36:47 [CBD](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/CBD)
39:50 Why Muy Thai?
44:00 Modafinil vs Mindfulness
51:27 [*Modafinil is Problematic* [Infographic]](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/blog/495-modafinil-is-problematic#Infographic)
56:36 QUANTUMiND - a COA-verified Nootropic Stack
[*Food Forensics* Book Review](https://www.limitlessmindset.com/books/564-food-forensics)
1:00:00 QUANTUMiND’s ingredients
1:07:37 Neal’s Nootropic journey
1:16:06 Liberating humanity from the dark ages of health science...

Check out Neal on [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/neal.thakkar.official/) or [Facebook](https://web.facebook.com/neal.thakkar.75) and learn more about his product QUANTUMiND, here...

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**Update**: Unfortunately, QUANTUMiND is no longer available. I'm glad I got the chance to try it.

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